[american opel]

this is killing me!!my 88r had a 85atc swingarm on it and i wanted the 88-89 one.i bought one and realised the carrier,axle,and brake stay was wrong.i bought a new carrier,used axle,and 2 set's of brake stay's.the axle is shot and bent and both brake stay's are wrong!!!the caliper bracket also doesn't work.i bought a new lsr axle for it and just want to get it together!!!i need the right brake stay and caliper bracket.soo far i am out $175.00 for wrong bent stuff.does anyone have the wright brake stay and caliper bracket?

 

[american opel]

the second pic. is with the brake stay that i bought an the old 85 swingarm with the smaller carrier.the third one is with the old brake stay overtop of the new one{on the 89 swingarm}

 

[TRX250RACER]

Sounds like you need to find the correct brake caliper bracket. They same caliper off of the 85 setup will work just need the matching bracket for the updated brake stay.

 

[american opel]

but why is the brake stay that i got wrong?is the 86-87 carrier smaller than the 88-89?if you look the bolt wont even fit.

 

[motofool250r]

more photos,

so now you have a 250r carrier, and 250r brake stay and it still doesn't fit. i think your swinger maybe a 450r

take some more photos

 

[american opel]

it can't be for a 450r.i bought a 250r swinger and carrier.the top mount on the brake stay isn't high enough.i just looked at my son's and the brake caliper is the same but the stay and caliper mount are different.

 

[american opel]

i just went on ebay and the 450r swingarm has a bunch of mounting brackets on the side.it's deff.a 250r one.

 

[mennis1971]

The carrier(and brake stay) is different on a 85 ATC. At least the caliper will bolt up once you have the right stuff.

 

[motofool250r]

yea thats definately an 88-89 swinger

 

[american opel]

new lsr axle just arrived.still can't put it in!!!!!

 

[sameltoe]

I have a carrier if you want it...just pay shipping. No brake parts tho...
And if it takes the same bearings as a 450...I have bearings you can have also...

 

[bigmatt61]

The bearing carrier is essentially a cam. Its that way for your chain adjustment.
Do you have it turned too far forward or backward? if so that would put that front bolt hole on the bracket too low to get the bolt in.

 

[american opel]

it's not the carrier.it's the stay mount hole isn't tall enough,and the caliper mount is wrong.

 

[american opel]

i understand but the stay "stay's"in one spot.it doesn't move when you adjust the chain.

The bearing carrier is essentially a cam. Its that way for your chain adjustment.
Do you have it turned too far forward or backward? if so that would put that front bolt hole on the bracket too low to get the bolt in.

 

[rook]

if you don't have it sorted out in a few days i will be back home and we can get it figured out since i'm not too far away(greenville, pa).

 

[american opel]

thanks alot rook.i'm sure someone will know what's wrong.if i didn't have sooooooooooo much money in the 89 swingarm i would just put the old 85atc one back in it!!!

 

[bigmatt61]

Well it should raise and lower the bolt holes as you roll the carrier forward and backward. That is the reason for the bushing with the 2 mill flats that is on your swingarm and the carrier goes over when properly mounted. The carrier slides forward and back, but also up and down. Try taking off the 88-89 brake stay and rolling the carrier 180 degrees, then remount the brake stay. See if that works.

 

[rook]

no problem! that stay should move up, down, and all around when the carrier is spun though.

 

[american opel]

where the brake stay goes is straight with the axle.yes the carrier does go up and down,as well as froward and back but the stay doesn't moveup and down.the cam part it on the carier to housing{swingarm}part.

 

[motofool250r]

you rotate the carrier and it pushes the bolt holes up and down, the second picture on the original post looks about right