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I know our politicians must have something better to do than shutdown youth sized atv's.I dont know about you guys,but I dont let my kid eat quad parts,lick the paint on my truck,or other things that are just plain stupid.
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I don't get why motorcycles don't get the same bad press as ATC/ATV's. I've been whizzed past by kids on 80cc motorcycles and no one seems to get all riled up it. In fact I used to do the same thing... :blink:
 
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I dont think is due to safety issue as far as the riding of atv's and mini cycles.The way I read it,they have concerns for the levels of lead in the different components,especially electrical.As I said,I dont allow my kid to eat the parts off mine or her quad,nor have I ever saw a kid chewing on a stator,plug boot or anything else at any of the places that I ride.
 
ATV parts are a great source of fiber and iron for your kids... i can 't believe you don't allow your kids to nourish themselves with their little rides. What if they are lost in the desert? I hope they don't ban the gasoline and oil, hydration is important too. :)
here's to the government keeping us safe!!!!!!!!
 
I do believe its for real... its on all the racing sites, ama, etc. youth quads, parts, and etc. are banned!!

the Tom Self and ama sites are automated and only take a minute of your time...


Places to take action:
www.tomself.com


http://www.amadirectlink.com/legisltn/rapidresponse.asp

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This was posted on our district site, the letter is from Greg Robinson, Owner of Unadilla...

Good Afternoon...forget the good, as our country has descended into lunacy.

I have spent most of the day on two conference calls relative to the subject line above, and I must say I am rather concerned about the fate of our sport and industry. Not to mention our local communities for the further loss of jobs and $$ that our industry brings in each year. It is certainly that dire..believe me.

As of yesterday, all the OEMs had to pull for sale all new youth minicycles and atvs for those under the age of 13...this under order of the CPSC due to lead content of plastics and certain metals. As of yesterday, a dealer or private individual can no longer provide parts or service, to these affected machines, in which there is a possibility that those same parts may contain lead...no oil changes, plastic, levers, engine cases, etc, etc..goggles, helmets, clothing, knee braces..you name it. You may think that is just for new machines, but it is for everything new and used.
The CPSC also ruled that machines under 85cc are considered toxic to the health of young children.

Effective yesterday, Honda has pulled replacement parts from their service system for these machines pending lead certification...this takes 400 days. KTM, Suzuki, Kawasaki, and Yamaha are doing the same thing. If you have a 1,2,3 year old machine, you won't be able to buy most parts for it very soon.

Yamaha is sending out restrictions to its dealers saying that an 85cc bike can only be sold, and should only be operated by someone over the age of 13.

Now to the fun part for us as a race promoter.

Because the manufacturers are now issuing these guidelines, we as promoters cannot allow a youth under the age of 13 to participate for two reasons.
We are allowing someone to participate in a sanctioned activity on a vehicle that has been determined by the manufacturer and the CPSC to be unsafe for that age level.
We are allowing someone to participate in a sanctioned activity on a vehicle that the CPSC has determined is a toxic substance.
If you think I am joking, consider the following
MX Sports is considering removing youth classes from the Loretta Lynn's program, GNCC, and ATV Nationals...we run all three of these series and I can tell you that these classes make up over 1/3 of our entries and more than half of our attendance.
The AMA will be forced to ban youths under 13 from any AMA amateur or pro competition due to legal ramifications. The same will apply to local districts and sanctioning bodies, as insurance will not be available to cover this exposure. The lifeblood of our sport are these kids..if they cannot participate, they will find something else to do, and we will not get them back. They will not race, watch, or buy products. That means Mom, Dad and older brothers/sisters won't be there either.
Unadilla would most likely not participate in any form of amateur racing..with only half or less of the entries left, it wouldn't be financially possible.
DO I HAVE YOUR ATTENTION YET!

There are two efforts going on right now to get a temporary stay granted by the CPSC for "Off Road Vehicles." The MIC (Motorcycle Industry Council) and Missouri State House Rep Mike Sense(#4 in line in the MO st govt) are both developing grass roots letter campaigns through websites to develop a ground swell of support for this stay. Keep in mind this is only temporary, and unless a Federal injunction or legislation is developed, this isn't going away.

There are several opinions floating around on this subject saying that our thinking is flawed and that only the sale of new units is affected...if that is the case, why are helmet, goggle, sneakers, sunglasses, OEM parts and accessories, and dealer service being pulled for these units???

I will leave you with this..if indeed this is overblown, and we are right that we shouldn't be affected by this, it still doesn't mean that we can't/won't be sued by someone using this logic, and worse yet, convince a jury that the above is true. If it gets that far, you will have spent nearly a million $$ in your own defense, just to prove you were right all along.

IS IT WORTH THAT TO YOU?

I will get you info on the two websites, and I encourage you to beg everyone you know that rides, owns, promotes, or attends an off road sporting event to get everyone they know in the same manner to fill out one of these letters...Every Mom Dad and Kid should individually enter their name. Then they should contact their local representatives too.

Thanks for listening, and please do not think you can't make a difference..contact your local representatives as well..explain the economic impact this will have..educate yourself on this subject as quickly as you can.

Greg Robinson
VP Marketing
Unadillla Motorsports
© 315-725-9537
 
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Way to go US Government,my friends are losing their jobs everyday and yet you find a way to put more out of business.What about those fancy foreign made cars and jets that you guys tour around in???You know,Im all for making stuff safe for kids,but damnit,exercise common sense and quit throwing blankets over everything just to make a couple of check wielding lobbyist happy.How about doing something about the illegals that bring God knows what diseases here and sends OUR cash back to wherever.Then you force me to support the sorry bastards with education and healthcare.Oh,but that would end the cheap labor for the companies that you are tied in with and you might lose your gardener.EVERYONE needs to contact their Reps and help put an end to this BS.I will decide what is safe for my family,these guys have no clue.
 
atv's and motorcycles kept me out of trouble. i started riding in 1982 at age 6 i have not had any side effects from lead. i guess ill make a doctors appointment to check for lead poisoning. do you guys want to start a black market for atv parts?
 
I copied this from another website and Im spreading the news regarding the youth atv ban. There is a new bill that needs to be introduced by Jan 3 to get voted on in the upcoming year to ammend the ban. Ask your Congress rep to support HR1587. It has to be presented on the floor before January 3rd. If it does not get presented before that, then we have from Janu 3rd until Feb 11th to introduce the Bill to the 112th Congress:

How long are you going to sit on your hands and do NOTHING? Our beloved industry is about to be pulled right out from underneath us. It's time to be pro-active. Everyone of us have to do this. Tell every person you know that rides a motorcycle or ATV.

As a former Dirt Tracker and GP Roadracer, I started racing when I was four years old. Like most all adults in our industry, we all started as kids with respect to riding or racing. Statistics show that the likelyhood of a person riding a motorcycle after they reach the age of 16 for the first time is decreased by 87%. What does this mean? If you don't buy your kid a bike early in life, becoming a motorcyclists decreases dramatically thus an industry will be be gone.

As most of you know, there was a law that passed in 2008 banning any product for children that was lead based. That was fine to get rid of the Chinese made toys but the cause was that any motorcycle or ATV for kids 12 and under was banned also.

This May, all motorcycle sales will stop if we don't get House Bill HR1587 passed. You will no longer be able to buy a part or get your bike worked on period. The grace period is about to expire and we need to get this passed.

HR1587 is a very simple one page Bill that excludes the next generation from having nothing to ride, thus missing out on a life-time of joy. It addresses solely this issue and is not filled full of other issues. This BILL addresses our RIGHTS only. For once, there is a Bill just for US, not the U.S.

Join me and petitioning your US CONGRESS representative in supporting this Bill, HR1587. DO NOT contact your Senator. We have to get the House to pass the Bill first.

You will need to do contact your CONGREE Rep twice. The first time is now, during the lame duck Congress before the new Congress is sworn in. Then after the new Congress is sworn in in January. Please do this now. It may take you a little while to navigate the website, but WE HAVE TO DO THIS.

Here is what you need to look for on the AMA site.
Under THE LIFE, Click on "Rights", then "Issues & Legislation", then on the far right side of the website under Policy Tools, you can view how your politician has voted by clicking on "Key Votes." Under "Key Votes is where you can directly contact your politician.
I have meandered through all that to the page where you enter you zip code to find your representative and then you can click links to contact him/her

http://www.ama-cycle.org/legisltn/rapidresponse.asp



On this election day, please start the process. If you can't today, do it soon please. You want to know what your $39 per year is paying for, this is it. But we need your help. As your AMA Congressman of District 20, I am asking to please help.

AMA-Cycle.org

http://capwiz.com/amacycle/webreturn...c111:H.R.1587:
 
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