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With the vast popularity of today's high performance 4 chokes, what exactly is it about the old R you guys choose it for? For me it's the looks, sound, potential, and pure fun of the engine.
 
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I like the looks and sound and potential thats forsure. For me though i can remember seeing a few back when i was in school and always wishing i had one lol. Not to mention im a 2 stroker for life! I was out the other day at a place riding and there was a good 15 or so quads i was the only 2 stroke and i think thats sweet! lol..

Plus when some one ask what you ride and you say 250r the first thing they say is i bet its hella fast!
 
For about the same reason I still ride a trike! :lol: In some ways I just plain like to go against the grain....

But some of the reasons are a little more tangible. For one thing, as fast and cutting edge as the new thumpers are, they are more expensive to rebuild if/when they pop. I don't want to go into the whole "well if you maintain it it will last a long time" arguments because the same can be said for wing-dingers.

I love my trike because of all the looks and comments I get for being the one guy out of a hundred that still rides a trike. Kind of a nostalgia element too. I like my 2-stroke for basically the same reasons plus the power/cc it makes, that unmistakeable sound, the smell, and so on.

I really enjoy how riding my 2-stroke trike sparks up conversation with complete strangers when I'm out riding on Tug Hill... If I was riding what everyone else rides nowadays I would be missing out on all that. It's fun to meet new people and here their stories and experiences about the old legends.... (that can still kick some tail by the way!)

Often imitated, never duplicated... ATC/TRX250r....
 
Gotta keep the nostalgia of the 2strokes alive. Just love the simplicity of the engine, and the look of the expansion chamber sticking out the side and hear it hitting at idle. Whats it cost to rebuild a 4stroke again? lol
 
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i like hearing the sound of a 2 stroke as it opens up and passes everybody else through the power band as well as rolling off the trailer and watching all the people that have 4 strokes think to them self what is he riding and then firing it up and smelling the smoke they let off thats why i love my R, plus you cant just go to a dealerdhip and say gimme one of those. thats why
 
A lot of it is what Ride Red had to say. Ther eis just somethign about it...Quad or Trike that just says...Hell Ya!!!!

I really enjoy the conversation part of it as you get to meet so many really great people and hear about how it was back in the day when they had a R/Trike.

I can honestly say that when riding a thumper around the track compared to the R, With the R you are more in tune with what is going on with the track and the quad. The thumper it's more like riding on a utility quad and have this odd kind of numbness to it all. It's hard to explain but I think you get the idea.

Plus its a smoker!!!
 
They are so much lighter. Lightness helps handling, acceleration and getting unstuck. I just plain love two strokes, heck even my lawnmower is a two stroke. When they come on the pipe, well it's the most fun you can have with your pants on.
 
First thing: I love the looks of the 250r
Second thing: It will start 1st or 2nd kick everytime
 
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I'm 30 now and it all started with some ATC250R's in my area. I had a ATC that I finally finished after 5yrs and 2 motor set ups. Sadly it was stolen while I was doing 3yrs on 2 assault charges. When I got home I did a 87LT250. I had CT port it and do the head, what a great bike a LT can be when built right. I then built a banshee that was up around 70hp, it was a rocket but even extended it handles corners terrible. While the banshee is faster on straights long enough, the 250R is just a total package IMO, it can be such a perfect bike when built to your needs. I'll get another ATC but it's gonna be more of a straight line performance bike, +4-ish swinger etc
 
I'm also a die hard 2 stroker, I like the lighter weight, more power per cc, smell, powerband, sound, feel and ease of repair. I bought a YFZ the first year they came out, hated it, back to 2 strokes. I'm different than a the Honda only crowd though, I also own a Banshee and if a manufactuer came out with a new FI 2 stroke 300+ i'd be all over it. Wish KTM or someone would do it.
 
The 250R is simply the best high performance quad ever built, simple design, lite weight,fast and when built right cc for cc unbeatable. Its to bad so many other people jumped on the 4 stroke band wagon and in my opinion got brain washed. I don't hate 4 strokes, I hate the fact that we are forced to embrace them. I'm bias though been riding an R since 1991.
 
Why would I buy something more expensive, heavier, doesn't turn as good, and cost alot more to modify? Yeah, granted a 25+ year old machine takes a little more tinkering with minor maintenance issues as anything does as it ages, but I havn't seen a reason to quit racing the R!
 
I like the ATC/TRX because not everyone has one. I also like to go against the grain. I had an ATC 250R and I loved it except for it was air cooled so I traded it for CR dirt bike. I plan on getting another one, only this time I want an 86. I actually traded my YFZ450 for the 250R. Forget them 4 pokers they are gay. I don't think I ever want one again.
 

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The 250R is simply the best high performance quad ever built, simple design, lite weight,fast and when built right cc for cc unbeatable. Its to bad so many other people jumped on the 4 stroke band wagon and in my opinion got brain washed. I don't hate 4 strokes, I hate the fact that we are forced to embrace them.
I agree with this statement 100%. When I started racing MX in the mid 90's, if you wanted the best MX quad you bought an R. I raced for a few years, got divorced but kept the R :lol:. I didn't ride it for years, but I was never willing to let it go. I moved three times and drug it with me for 10 years...I started racing again a couple of years ago. I love my 88 so much that when an unexpected opportunity came along to buy an 86, I jumped on it. I race the 86 in the woods and I'll admit that I thought about buying a 4 poke for woods racing. But I love the R too much. As a female I feel like as long as I can keep a hold of the handle bars, keep my feet somewhere near the foot pegs, and point it in the right direction that the R will go where I want it to go and soak up anything that I can throw at it. To this day I don't think they've built anything that compares to the 250R. Oh yeah...it's a whole lotta fun!Aletha aka Breezy :lol:
 
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I have been riding ATV's for 20+ years, and I love them all. I like the 4 stokes too, it's just different kind of fun. I'm with chrs, I wanted something cheap, but something with value. Trust me, nothing beats an R when it comes to best bang for your buck. 2 strokes just have a unique, sound, feel and smell. Who doesn't like the 2 smoker smell? Every time I get on my R it really takes me back to when I was kid and these things ruled the hill, I miss those days. Long live the R!
 
Here is my story. Short version...I currently have a Walsh 250R and would not trade it for the world.

I grew up (now 40) never riding bikes or quads because there was never anyplace (that I knew of) to ride them. Then in 1998 I lived next to a large (for northeast) sand pits and had a chance to buy a quad. I got a 1998 Blaster brand new. Loved it at first, but quickly grew beyond the limits of the Blaster plus I wanted my wife to ride with me. So in 1999 I got a new Banshee, telling the wife I would sell the Blaster. Well, once the two of us went riding together I knew I could keep both. Around that time (fall of 1998) NEATV was starting to race again. I went to watch that first race at Southwick and knew I wanted to race motocross.

All that was at the track were 250R, Banshee and LTs. I put a set of PT pipes, nerfs and kill switch and hit the track that next season. Loved it. I was having so much fun racing the Banshee. That snappy 2 stroke power was awesome but the suspension was stock and could not take tracks like Southwick 5 times a year. It was either upgrade the Banshee or get one of those 250Rs I saw all over the track. All the top guys rode 250R, except for one guy on an Outlaw framed Banshee. So I started my search after the season.

Went to look at a couple but they were pretty beat. Then a co-worker came by my desk and saw the picture of my quad. We started talking and she mentioned that her boyfriend had a Honda "something or other" that he wanted to sell. Well, that weekend I went to look at the quad. It was an 89 TRX250R, kinda beat and the clutch side was removed. He said it ran and would sell it to me for 2 grand. I wanted something in better shape, but I brought it. It needed some work, but I stripped it down to the bare frame and rebuild it. Cracked frame, bent shock, all new bearings, new top end etc. For the next 10 years or so I raced that 250R when ever I could. Raced right up to expert class finally settling in the old timers classes.

When my son got old enough to race the "Sport 15" class (which allowed 250cc 2 strokes) he shared that 89 with me. Finally it was time to get another quad, so I found a Walsh 250R in awesome shape with everything I dreamed on it. I brought it with the intentions of letting my son race the Walsh after he gets a full season on the 89 250R, but by the end of the year he wanted a 4 stroke like every one else. So I gave him the choice, either buy a current model 4 stroke or build a Walsh hybrid. He loved the Walsh handling and we decided to build the Walsh CRF quad and sell off the Banshee and 89 250R.

So while there is a 4 stroke in my garage, it is only the motor. The chassis is all 250R!

Reasons I will never switch
1) Most important is the fun factor. Riding the 4 strokes feel lazy. From trying friends race 400ex back in the day to the Walsh CRF. Just does not have the same feel.
2) Cost. My son, knowing nothing about motors, did a complete top end in 1 1/2 hours the first time! Try that on a 4 stroke, for $150 too!
3) Weight. Two identical chassis with different motors. And I HATE pushing that 4 stroke pig around the garage.
4) Jumping. I have jumped my Banshee about 75 ft on the track years ago. But never in race conditions. Now the 250R just flys so nice.
 
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