[ghost]

Well the long awaited ride report on my new esr310 I bought from esr310r on here. First off it ran great and way powerfull. After about 2 hours on it we took a break to eat and chill. So it sat for about 30 minutes or so. Got back on her and it was a total pita to fire up. After about 20 kicks it started. Seamed to idle fine and the wife and I took off. Got about 50ft down the road went to give it some gas and it started to go baaaarrrrooooommm dead. Steered it to the side of the road and kicked that biatch for 20 Minutes.. No starty. So I pushed it back to the truck and loaded up and went home. When I got home I tore it down and went through the gambit of checks.. I found that I am getting no spark!! Why would that be guys? Do ignitions on these things just go? What do I do??

I'm having problems with the link to photobucket..

 

[8dave3]

Yep.they can go out just like that.If you have already tried a new sparkplug you need to get an ohm meter and go thru all the electrical checks.If you dont have a Clymer manual,I can post up all the test points and values for you.Also,mine starts better warm if I hold the throttle open while kicking on it.

 

[ghost]

well I have the service manual, no clymers. I wonder how many search points there are. I don't have a spare plug so in the a.m. I'm out to get one. Damn the ingition can go just like that.. Stange..

 

[8dave3]

Its possible and probable that you fouled the plug.Try giving it throttle when kicking it over after its been ridden.For cold starts,I choke mine and kick it over twice at about 1/2 speed,then push the choke in and kick the crap out of it with the throttle open a little.Usually starts on the 1st or 2nd hard kick.If its warmed up,I hold the throttle open and kick the crap out of it,usually starts within 2 kicks.

 

[ghost]

well when I took the plug out for the first time it was soake in oil and fuel. I cleaned it up and kicked the piss out of it.. Still no starty. I kicked this thing like it owed me money! It even kicked my wife. When I was checking the spark I held it next to the cyclinder, is that o.k. for a ground? Does it matter that the jug is aluminum?

 

[bushwesl]

It's too bad to hear about your R... Looks like you were having fun while it was going... Nice pics. All those toys yours (camaro, etc.)? Those are MKW MK9's on the truck right? I have the same ones on mine, good choice

 

[ghost]

So the link works, Doesn't for me. Ya there al mine and PAID OFF!! Nice to be debt free. The truck was set up like that when I bought it. Not sure the rims they say helo, rubber is BFG G-force radials..

 

[Michael88R]

Make double sure that you aren't getting a spark. Sometimes its hard to see and hard to get enough kick to see it. These old ignitions have a weak spark.

 

[2R's]

did you have another motor in this quad ..was it first ride on a new built machine ? ..just wondering if the machine & ignition has "running" history before you installed the ESR top end ..

 

[8dave3]

I would def put in a new plug after reading your last post.Sounds like it was severly fouled.If that will not get any spark,then go thru all the electrical checks.

 

[mstohner]

start with a new spark plug them check all of the electrical connections. its happened to me one came a little loose i lost spark. check everything and the last thing i checked was the connection coming from the motor to wiring harness and that was were the problem was.

 

[bsilver]

Ok...I JUST went through this. Happened almost the EXACT same way. Changed the plug...no good. Went through ALL the electrical checks in the Clymer...all good. COMPLETELY tore out my wiring harness and re-did it...nada. Called my buddy at DFR and come to find out, the "checks" in the Clymer manual aren't worth a damn. Only "true" way to troubleshoot is to start shotgunning parts. Most of us don't have a bin full of electrical parts, so that's pretty much impossible. So then it gets expensive...buying parts and hoping for the best. My shop-owner friend happeded to have said bin of parts, so I was able to swap stuff out and see what worked. As luck would have it, the first part I tried fixed the problem...the CDI. $93 from Service Honda.

Good luck bro. Electrical issues suck. And btw - you can ckeck for spark by just holding onto the electrode of the plug with your thumb. It's not like a car and will knock you on your ass, it's just a little tick to let you know it's there.

 

[ghost]

O.K. Guys I figured it out. Replaced the plug rechecked spark, we have spark. So I purdged the entire fuel system to include the carb. So what is it you say, well I desided after the fuel system purdge to just check the oil my wife mixed for me. Well the bottle said 2 stroke motor oil, not premix oil. I guess I bought the wrong one by accident. I happened to have just a little bit of yamalube premix left and compared it to the 2 stroke motor oil. They are both yamalube just ones oil and other is premix!! First yamalube was all I can get at the time.. So now it makes sense there was about a half tank of original stuff in there allready then I toped her off with my messed up mix. It ran a little weard the last hour then just died. It all makes sense now. So will that cause any damage to my motor?? What do you guys think? Rings, piston o.k. I will run a compression test tonight after I get done beating my head into the wall... O.K. now I won the jackass award!!

 

[RebelBanshee]

O.K. Guys I figured it out. Replaced the plug rechecked spark, we have spark. So I purdged the entire fuel system to include the carb. So what is it you say, well I desided after the fuel system purdge to just check the oil my wife mixed for me. Well the bottle said 2 stroke motor oil, not premix oil. I guess I bought the wrong one by accident. I happened to have just a little bit of yamalube premix left and compared it to the 2 stroke motor oil. They are both yamalube just ones oil and other is premix!! First yamalube was all I can get at the time.. So now it makes sense there was about a half tank of original stuff in there allready then I toped her off with my messed up mix. It ran a little weard the last hour then just died. It all makes sense now. So will that cause any damage to my motor?? What do you guys think? Rings, piston o.k. I will run a compression test tonight after I get done beating my head into the wall... O.K. now I won the jackass award!!

I dont see the oil causing any trouble. Sounds like you just fouled a plug.

When the bike just dies like that, I always check the easy things first. Enough gas, gas on, kill switch etc.

 

[8dave3]

If Im reading your post correctly,you mixed some bottom end oil with gas.That would cause the plug fouling problem.I doubt it hurt the motor any,but a compression test is good anytime.

 

[ghost]

O.K. she LIVES once again. Nothing like a 50/50 mix of c12 and quality pre mix!! Damn I feel stupid.. But live and learn. Now if I can only figure out how to post my vids...

 

[NormalZ]

If it keeps fouling plugs after this new plug goes in, that's a sure sign that the wet-side crank seal is bad...

 

[quadzillamad]

get sum vids up man keen as 2 c her running....