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I installed the Sonny Fricia intake along with the carb. The intake definitely helped the carb position issue.
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I was also able to get the Selvy/KRP pipe with extended silencer installed as well, along with getting a few other odds and ends buttoned up.
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I鈥檓 still working on the carb to airbox intake and airbox repositioning. There has been a lot of trial and error, and ordering of different components to see what I can make work. With any luck, I should have the last piece delivered today that will let me get it all together馃馃徎
 

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I built a similar intake as you today I鈥檒l have to post pics later but I like you鈥檙e silicon elbow better than what I did.
This was my 3rd iteration of the intake. I finally got the right combination of parts to line up and mostly clear the shock. My first attempt was using 2.5鈥 aluminum intake tube and indenting it to clear the shock. The denting turned out better than expected, but there was no way I was going to get it angled right to meet the carb and the airbox.

I ordered everything from: www.siliconeintakes.com
 

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Where鈥檇 you get the intake from? I been looking for one myself, I have issues with fittment on my build also but I just run it with the boot hitting the frame for right now.
Sonny Fricia. Search him on Facebook and send him a PM. He makes all kinds of billet parts for the 250R.
 

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Now that I have my coolant leaking issue resolved, I鈥檓 back to trying to figuring out the Zeel ignition - coolant issue thread located here: Coolant Leaking Issues

I ordered the Zeel programming cable to better understand the maps and have the ability to update and adjust them, especially after hearing there are improved starting settings, etc.

Here are the two preprogrammed maps and settings from DRW - Map 1 is supposed to be TRX250R and Map 2 is supposed to be 01 CR250:
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Now that I have my coolant leaking issue resolved, I鈥檓 back to trying to figuring out the Zeel ignition - coolant issue thread located here: Coolant Leaking Issues

I ordered the Zeel programming cable to better understand the maps and have the ability to update and adjust them, especially after hearing there are improved starting settings, etc.

Here are the two preprogrammed maps and settings from DRW - Map 1 is supposed to be TRX250R and Map 2 is supposed to be 01 CR250:
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Interesting to see that map 1 has more overall timing. I assumed the cr map had more. I鈥檓 also waiting on my cable to get here to experiment with timing but need to figure out what all the other things effect on you pics.
 

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Agreed. I contacted Dave and Weston asking about the maps that I have and any changes or improvements that they would recommend. Dave鈥檚 only response was a laugh emoji and Weston said that he鈥檇 only recommend changes if the engine was on a dyno.

The main reason I got this ignition was because Dave spoke so incredibly highly of it and it鈥檚 significant improvements over stock, HPI, CR, etc. I think the first few people who got their Zeel鈥檚 through Dave were the lucky ones as he seemed to support them and any updates/adjustments. Everyone else that got theirs through DRW seems to be in the dark. There were no instructions, setup details, etc. provided and when asking about their product you get laughed at. I鈥檓 in contact with a couple of other guys on their Zeel journey and any map adjustments they鈥檙e making, and I also reached out to a somewhat local 2-stroke tuner with a dyno to see if he could help me out. I鈥檒l definitely share any details as I learn them.
 

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Agreed. I contacted Dave and Weston asking about the maps that I have and any changes or improvements that they would recommend. Dave鈥檚 only response was a laugh emoji and Weston said that he鈥檇 only recommend changes if the engine was on a dyno.

The main reason I got this ignition was because Dave spoke so incredibly highly of it and it鈥檚 significant improvements over stock, HPI, CR, etc. I think the first few people who got their Zeel鈥檚 through Dave were the lucky ones as he seemed to support them and any updates/adjustments. Everyone else that got theirs through DRW seems to be in the dark. There were no instructions, setup details, etc. provided and when asking about their product you get laughed at. I鈥檓 in contact with a couple of other guys on their Zeel journey and any map adjustments they鈥檙e making, and I also reached out to a somewhat local 2-stroke tuner with a dyno to see if he could help me out. I鈥檒l definitely share any details as I learn them.
Keep us updated. when the time comes I will be adjusting mine also that鈥檚 why I purchased the cable too. Quick research is showing me different than what I know of 4 stroke motors as far as timing parameters and how a 2 stroke is effected by retarded timing.
 

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Quick update - I was able to get confirmation from Dave that my maps are OPPOSITE of what was advertised. My Map 1 above is CR250 (21.3 deg timing) and my Map 2 is TRX250R (18.0 deg timing). If I wouldn鈥檛 have gotten the cable to check them, I would have never known. Especially since I was planning on wiring my Zeel to be Map 2 only to use the CR250 map. If you wired a map switch to toggle between the two maps you could probably tell a performance difference and which is which, but for anyone considering wiring their Zeel without a map switch I鈥檇 strongly suggest that you get a cable to confirm your maps first.
 

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Quick update - I was able to get confirmation from Dave that my maps are OPPOSITE of what was advertised. My Map 1 above is CR250 (21.3 deg timing) and my Map 2 is TRX250R (18.0 deg timing). If I wouldn鈥檛 have gotten the cable to check them, I would have never known. Especially since I was planning on wiring my Zeel to be Map 2 only to use the CR250 map. If you wired a map switch to toggle between the two maps you could probably tell a performance difference and which is which, but for anyone considering wiring their Zeel without a map switch I鈥檇 strongly suggest that you get a cable to confirm your maps first.
Wow good to know I thought that was weird. I wonder if mines the same I have mine wired on map 2. I just got the cable I鈥檒l have to check it.
 

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Well, I ended up getting a switch to have the ability to swap from Map 1 to Map 2 with the intention to get on a dyno to create custom curves. I wired in a rocker/toggle switch and added in to the bars. I ran out of room on the left side, so I found a spot to squeeze it in on the right.
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Getting the switch and the rest of the Zeel wired up was one of the last things needed before firing it up. I got some fresh Sunoco 110 last weekend with the expectation to finally get some heat cycles in on this build.

With my first attempt at getting it started I experienced some wild kickback - kickback like I have never experienced before. I initially faulted the Zeel. I continued to kick and kick until I finally got it started. It ran, but boy did it run like crap and VIBRATE like crazy. Ugh馃様 I initially checked the woodruff key, thinking that the kickback caused it to sheer, but it all checked out ok.

I left it until this weekend, where I found the time and ambition to drain the oil and coolant and remove the pipe to get the clutch cover off and remove the clutch. Sure enough, therein lied the issue. There was a 鈥榤ark鈥 on the counterbalancer gear that was mistaken for the punch mark for proper syncing with the crank.
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This build has been one step forward, two steps back the entire way. Why would I expect anything different at the end?
 
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