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    Senior Member brewer_brewer's Avatar
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    So who owns the other cylinders such as sphynx?
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    Normally I would approach members with my concerns and warnings on an individual basis with private messages. I'm going to make a wide spread warning right now: If anyone attempts to start trashing this thread for the sake of doing so or just wanting to lower the significance of what is happening with BDT acquiring the Sabre cylinders, comments will get deleted without question and further action will be taken if necessary. Nobody wants to wade through a bunch of nonsense in order to get useful information so we will not allow this to become littered with trash as we have seen happen before. Thanks.

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    I think CPI owned and designed the sphinx, puma and saber cylinders- at least at one time they did...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big_Mike View Post
    I think CPI owned and designed the sphinx, puma and saber cylinders- at least at one time they did...
    Yup, CP Industries designed the Sphynx, Puma and Saber (plus many other cylinders Calvin developed) as well as cast them in house in the USA. Originally they were machined at CP Industries, now they are machined at their parent company still in the USA. Nothing here has changed; CP Industries will continue to cast & machine the Saber's in the USA.

    The only changes is the Saber is now only available to customers & builders through BDT Motorsports, plus the addition of the 'Baby Saber', and a few other bore sizes that were not available previously.

    Carlos

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    I'm interested in a baby sabre....what would be the cost of a cylinder....

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    Quote Originally Posted by JGU2fiddyR View Post
    I'm interested in a baby sabre....what would be the cost of a cylinder....
    Lot's of options, bore sizes, porting, and different configurations. Please call BDT for pricing...

    Carlos

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    Just for reference for those that have not seen a Saber up close, here are some pictures of the 'Raw' castings and piston.

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    From Left to Right....Saber 'Raw' casting and 97 MM piston, second picture shows under side with piston, 3rd picture shows the comparison of the Saber 97 MM piston vs the 250R 66 MM piston, and 4th picture are the two pistons side by side.

    Looking at the second picture you can clearly see the casting bore skirts and their massive diameter. This clearly shows why the cases need special boring, epoxy work and porting. The case bore requiered to clear the skirts plus the large piston diameter at BDC breaks into the casting pockets in the center cases, filling with epoxy and machining those pockets is critical. Picture 5 shows the epoxied and machined center cases.

    Carlos

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    wish we had some dunes here to justify that kind of build.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thesmith87250r View Post
    wish we had some dunes here to justify that kind of build.
    Lakehurst, dude! Dunes are the only riding I do in this state.

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    I'm curious of what the HP and tq is on a puma compared to a saber both with same midrange port job.


 
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